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From: Matthew James Gering <mgering@ecosystems.net> Subject: RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone (fwd) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:39:33 -0800
You missed my point. What I'm trying to point out is that no government (or any other body, for that matter) can prevent someone from doing something. All the state can do (and does, if you look closely) is offer to punish anyone who disobeys it.
Again that is simply incorrect, or do you wish to tell me that our military has not prevented the invasion of the continental US in this century, or that it did not prevent the Soviet Union from expanding across Europe? You cannot completely discount *deterrent force*, although it is greatly overrated.
Woah. This extension into foreign powers and such is an entirely different venue. The entire discussion is based around the question of a government and those citizens within it. When we start talking about multiple government and multiple citizen sets the whole issue is orders of magnitude more complex.
Nor can a government use *retribution force* if it does not know the perpetrator.
Tell that to the hostages that were killed during the occupation of France.
Your statement boils down to the government is not omnipotent. Well duh!
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