I just re-read John Perry Barlow's 1992 article, "Decrypting the Puzzle Palace," and was knocked over by his attack on TIA's TR45.3 committee and the CAVE algorithm. If you've not seen it lately (and Whit Diffie's comments on CAVE), I've put it at: http://jya.com/puzzle.htm Inspired by this and John Gilmore's similar attack on TIA and the TR45.3 gang in a message to me, I've put notices on my Web site that I will provide the CAVE algorithm to anyone who asks (and the TR45.3 document): http://jya.com/cave.htm Analysis of it will determine whether CAVE is as deliberately NSA-crippled as Gilmore, Barlow and Diffie claim, and that the TIA and the TR45.3 "wannabe spooks" committee cravenly caved (but, hey, it's never too late to dig out). Thanks to those who upbraded me for caving too. Digging now.