-- On 3 Dec 2001, at 8:06, mattd wrote:
Disaster struck [anarcho socialism in Catalonia] for many reasons and it was not all as grim as the stories you put on the web.You could cite many more sources on your site that you wont thus letting people get away with questioning your honesty and motives.I simply agree with those that call you a liar on Spain
If you read through McKay's pages, he calls me a liar, but then concedes the important facts -- concedes that "anarchist" Catalonia was in fact a dictatorship that ruled by terror, arguing not that I am lying because I say there was terror and there was no terror, not that I am lying because I say there was a dictatorship and there was no dictatorship, but instead claiming I am a liar because I imply there was unjust and oppressive terror whereas really it was necessary and justified terror, that I am a liar because I imply there was arrogant and cruel dictatorship when really it was benevolent and kindly dictatorship. For example in http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2374/govern.html an McKay writes: : : Moving on, James Donald presents one of his more : : outrageous statements. : : : : "then later, their leaders decided in : : : : secret, in cheerful defiance of the : : : : democratic procedures to dissolve the : : : : militia committee, to officially : : : : recreate the state rather than : : : : unofficially" He then rants at great length that I am lying outrageously, and that what I say is completely contradicted by the very sources that I cite, but after all this ranting concedes: : : [...] James Donald is right in that the CNT made : : the decision [...] in violation of its democratic : : principles, since the rank and file were not : : consulted. The decision in question stripped the "anarchist" nomenclatura of its power, and fed it into the hands of their enemies. If he concedes that the most important decision the "anarchists" ever made was made by a secretive elite, how then can my words be outragous? --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG AKpu2kepzNrk+gFVpsRFEhY123rgc5xUgow4eElm 4BitZRQhAj4p9f2SbO+b0zQWmqJVLbIw4UK+QcVD/