I know the site "cypherpunks@indigo.mese.com" was supposedly removed from the Cypherpunks list, as per a message from Eric Hughes, but I am getting several bounces per day. I assume you folks are, too. What's apparent is that each of these long bounces (400-500 lines) is *getting longer* each cycle through the process. I noticed this when I was deleting them. I suppose the extra lines--roughly 20 extra lines each cycle--are more error messages being added by cypherpunks@indigo.mese.com and then sent back to the List. This is *not* a complaint, though I hope it stops soon. Instead, it's a comment that e-mail systems and lists may need (soon!) more sophisticated positive reputation filters, to screen out such pathological behaviors, mail bombs, and the like. I feel sorry for the List members who are on more restrictive mail systems, including those who may have to (gulp!) pay for incoming mail by the byte. -Tim -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. Note: I put time and money into writing this posting. I hope you enjoy it.