Re: RTFM-709

Anonymous wrote:

(sweet fuck-all)

Jason wrote:

Information Server wrote:

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For information on the interception of plaintext email, send a reply to this message, with an empty message body and with a subject line -- "RTFM-709".

Jason, I have attached a file which includes some of the responses sent to "Information Server ", as well as a post to the list, apparently from David E. Smith, the remailer operator at Bureau42, giving the 'correct' address of the non-existent 'Information Server' supposedly at Sympatico...and, as a special bonus, a post to the list, purportedly from you, thanking 'Dave' for the information. You are a victim of your own misplaced faith in the great god known as WYSIWYG. (What you see, is what you get. -- NOT!) If I _am_ , then you have the satisfaction of knowing that if I suffer a serious regression into my former violent, psychotic delusional state, that the proper authorities will likely be able to track me down and prosecute me for you bizarre, sadistic murder. If I am _not_ , well... Regardless, whether you are seeking information on email interception or home-study on how to committ bizarre sex acts with farm animals, your interest in this information is known to both whomever you send your request to, as well as everyone who you reply to in regard to offered information, as well as everyone that the recipients share your email with _and_ anyone who manages to access the email accounts or systems of _all_ of the forementioned. Since both your real and forged corresponedence has already gone to private email accounts, public mailing lists, and perhaps to USENET and beyond, I think you can see the advisability of using encryption to limit access to the plaintext of your message to only those you specifically encrypt the message to. You may not care if the whole world knows that you want information on email interception, or even about your fondness for farm animals, but there are undoubtedly things which you would rather keep between yourself and the intended recipient. If a real 'Information Server' had a verifiable Public Key for you to encrypt your reply to, then it would not likely matter if you sent the message to a spoof address, as unknown recipients could not likely read it. The same applies to your friends, relatives and bussiness acquaintances. If you use encryption for those things which are important for you to keep private, then you do not have to worry as much if they share an email account, computer or system with friends, family, coworkers or strangers. The 'spoof' I did was neither technically complicated nor even particularly clever. On the other hand, there are a plethora of people in existence who are both clever _and_ skilled at poking their noses in wherever they want and doing whatever they like with the information. Sincerely, Louis J. Freeh (aka TruthMonger) Director (aka Lunatic) Federal Bureau of Investigation (aka Electronic Forgery Foundation) "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix "WebWorld & the Mythical Circle of Eunuchs" http://bureau42.base.org/public/webworld "InfoWar" http://bureau42.base.org/public/infowar3 "The Final Frontier"

From - Sat Nov 15 20:53:35 1997 Received: from borg.mindspring.com (borg.mindspring.com [207.69.200.122]) by orion.sk.sympatico.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA11966 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 19:34:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from ip164.hartford.ct.pub-ip.psi.net (ip164.hartford.ct.pub-ip.psi.net [38.10.219.164]) by borg.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA21805 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 20:34:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711160134.UAA21805@borg.mindspring.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tom McCaskill" To: toto@sk.sympatico.ca Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 21:32:32 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RTFM-709 Reply-to: mccaskill@mindspring.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) X-UIDL: c476fd8b1fe5744678d5d9e07eb2d8b4 X-Mozilla-Status: 0005 Content-Length: 0

From - Sat Nov 15 20:53:30 1997 Received: from plato.stic.net (mail.stic.net [204.57.118.5]) by orion.sk.sympatico.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA10112 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 19:26:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from polo ([207.71.51.94]) by plato.stic.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-39400U7000L2500S0) with ESMTP id AAA200 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 19:26:07 -0600 From: "joseph gonzales" To: Subject: RTFM-709 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 19:23:42 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19971116012606195.AAA200@polo> X-UIDL: a13c8e2364693d62e597643d6c8ad2f3 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 372

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From: Information Server To: Jason Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: Re: Mail interception Date: Saturday, November 15, 1997 6:46 PM

For information on the interception of plaintext email, send a reply to this message, with an empty message body and with a subject line -- "RTFM-709".

From - Sat Nov 15 20:53:36 1997 Received: from amiga.amitar.com.au (root@amiga.amitar.com.au [203.57.242.1]) by orion.sk.sympatico.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA17491 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 19:58:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from Amitar.com.au (ppp54.amitar.com.au [203.57.242.54]) by amiga.amitar.com.au (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA11177 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 09:46:33 +0800 From: Shane Cracknell Reply-To: shane@Amitar.com.au To: Information Server Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 09:58:27 +0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <346E4255.702B@sk.sympatico.ca> X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.5 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck Organization: Arthur do nowt...{We sell Apathy and inefficiency} Subject: RTFM-79 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-UIDL: b2827ed9e3492e433439fad67b59537f X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 4

From - Sat Nov 15 21:19:53 1997 Received: from clockking.lse.fullfeed.com ([199.201.90.25] (may be forged)) by orion.sk.sympatico.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA03935 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 21:06:16 -0600 (CST) Received: by clockking.lse.fullfeed.com id VAA11358; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 21:05:52 -0600 sender meb for toto@sk.sympatico.ca Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 21:05:52 -0600 From: mike belton Message-Id: <199711160305.VAA11358@clockking.lse.fullfeed.com> To: toto@sk.sympatico.ca Subject: RTFM-709 X-UIDL: 4396d0a3c0e4a0852673e89633beb9e4 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 0

From - Sat Nov 15 22:24:16 1997 Received: from mail.theptn.com (mail.theptn.com [209.0.16.30]) by orion.sk.sympatico.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA21139 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 22:17:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp.monument.com (smtp.monument.com [209.0.16.25]) by mail.theptn.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA02089 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 20:18:29 -0800 Received: by smtp.monument.com with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 21:19:52 -0800 Message-Id: <4.0.32.19971115201303.00e102f0@postoffice.pacbell.net> X-Sender: ShellShocked (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro 4.0 Beta 6 (build 221) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 20:13:25 -0800 To: toto@sk.sympatico.ca From: Ann Oy Subject: RTFM-709 In-Reply-To: <346E4255.702B@sk.sympatico.ca> References: <346E2E39.A29AFEE2@one.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: e1233cae9478cc54a17e3153078fa699 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 0

From - Sat Nov 15 22:35:14 1997 Received: from nsm.htp.org ([210.141.239.33] (may be forged)) by orion.sk.sympatico.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA25016 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 22:34:36 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 21309 invoked by uid 1002); 16 Nov 1997 04:33:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cypherpunks-e-help@htp.org; run by ezmlm Sender: cypherpunks-e-owner@htp.org Reply-To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net X-ftpsite-URL: ftp://ftp.htp.org/pub/crypto/ X-unsubscribe-URL: mailto:cypherpunks-e-unsubscribe@htp.org X-subscribe-URL: mailto:cypherpunks-e-subscribe@htp.org X-Loop: htp.org Delivered-To: mailing list cypherpunks-e@htp.org Message-ID: <346E7541.5A13@one.net.au> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 22:23:29 -0600 From: Jason Reply-To: cypherpunks@toad.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SYMPA (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [cpe:4407] Re: Mail interception References: <346E2E39.A29AFEE2@one.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 62e1bb695fcc53b7875b438fa194910d X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 651

David E. Smith wrote:

Jason wrote:

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So, does anybody know how to or where i can get information on intercepting email from ?

Any help that can be provided would be greeatly appreciated.

Jason, Some asshole spoofed the list with the wrong reply address for the Information Server at Sympatico. The correct address is: Information Server Your subject header should be: "Help" The body of the message should contain: "email security"

I hope this helps.

Dave, It worked, thanks. It is a shame that a few jerkoffs have to spoil the list for everyone else. regards jason

From - Sat Nov 15 22:39:32 1997 Received: from toad.com (toad.com [140.174.2.1]) by orion.sk.sympatico.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA25972 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 22:38:22 -0600 (CST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA20075 for cypherpunks-unedited-outgoing; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 20:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from harrier.sasknet.sk.ca (harrier.sasknet.sk.ca [142.165.5.2]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20070 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 20:34:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (lohner35.sk.sympatico.ca [142.165.98.35]) by harrier.sasknet.sk.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA25284; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 22:34:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <346E77AA.70F7@bureau42.ml.org> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 22:33:46 -0600 From: "David E. Smith" Reply-To: cypherpunks@toad.com Organization: Bureau42 Enterprises - An EFF Subsiduary X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SYMPA (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ann Oy CC: cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: Email Interception Information References: <346E2E39.A29AFEE2@one.net.au> <4.0.32.19971115201303.00e102f0@postoffice.pacbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 0e640c6327845b60f0495392c5b563e3 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 227

Ann Oy wrote:

Ann, The correct address for the Information Server at Sympatico is: Information Server Use a subject header of "Help" and put "email security" in the message body. Dave