-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <199705310853.JAA00659@server.test.net>, on 05/31/97 at 09:53 AM, Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk> said:
EAR says that you can't export crypto in electronic form. EAR says you can export crypto in textual form. We have electronic cash in terms of MT banks digicash. Email is more convenient for exporting crypto source code and binaries that snail mail.
Let's do it.
Here's what we need:
1. US entrepreneur to accept mail with
:: Snail-To: <street address (outside US)> Snail-Fee: <Fee + 2c/sheet + postage stamp charge, digicash> Scanning-Fee: <50c/sheet, digicash> Request-Remailing-To: <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net> Anon-Post-To: alt.cypherpunks
US volunteer strips off first two headers, prints out the document in a large OCR friendly font. Puts in envelope and posts at highest priority snail that can be paid for out of the included postage (overnight/air-mail/slow-boat).
2. Non-US entrepreneur to scan and remail results
:: Scanning-Fee: <50c/sheet, digicash> Request-Remailing-To: <cypherpunks@toad.com> Anon-Post-To: alt.cypherpunks
US volunteer scans the sheets, mails/post them to the requested email address/newsgroup, and collects his digicash fee per sheet.
I volunteer for #2. (You understand the importance of the Scanning-Fee, I can pay someone to feed sheets into a scanner if needs be with a fee, without that I can become overloaded with a ream of paper representing the binary for PGP5.0).
Legal questions: I'd be interested in legal interpretations of whether the above scheme is legal for the US entrepreneur. Peter Junger said a short while ago on the list that printed material could be exported under the EAR regulations administered by Commerce Dept. Does this scheme qualify?
Technical questions: If this is to include uuencoded or radix-64 mime encoding, we might want to think about redundancy to allow error correction. Perhaps we want that anyway to ensure that what we have is 100% character-by-character perfect. Or perhaps not as it may damage the legality aspects. They may start saying that you can only export human readable stuff on paper, etc. Then we move on to `texto' apparently human readable steganographically encoded paper based remailer messages.
Hi Adam, Why bother with all of this. If you want to export crypto then just do it. As long as we keep up with this mickymouse approach to exports trying to appease the FEDs who are acting unconstitutionaly on this matter things will never change. Put up a web page or a ftp site with the crypto binaries and let whomever wishes to download them download them. I have done this and I will continue to do this dispite what the goons in DC have to say about it. We must all hang together or we will all hang. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM5ApvI9Co1n+aLhhAQF/dAP/QeszxCEIyhXTSpQqBuNJuNaOFO+ZpEva 0neIPkVKUXXqPbVxzpC+32+sXlL89gWN7OjPXuxTY+2zMzE7GUfC39F7oUnqqhVD sGi9pS7jXXLBZKo6+mYiR6VDIYqWrRX5XFtiKHOZKwBUpU9MJYea1JHuYJp8W3ze Odu+QO7gVEk= =Ps+E -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----