~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, As promised, below is the list of folks who have asked to be put on Mr/Ms Anonymous' LIST OF SHAME. In addition, I am including one volunteer who supports Mr/Ms Anonymous...sort of. S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LIST OF SHAME VOLUNTEERS Dan Harmon Jim Ray Robby Havasy Perry Metzger (didn't volunteer, exactly, but wrote: "Perry, Who is disappointed that he didn't make the "LIST OF SHAME", but understands that perhaps he hasn't done enough to oppose controls on cryptography. I'll work harder, and hopefully you will denounce me soon." Damaged Justice <frogfarm@yakko.cs.wmich.edu> brianh@u163.wi.vp.com Rich Graves Brad Shantz Kevin L Prigge Jim Gillogly Robert Hettinga David Macfarlane Brad Shantz Mark Aldrich Charles Gimon Jamie Lawrence Doug Hughes David K. Merriman Lucky Green Raph Levien Bill Frantz Paul E Robichaux Glenn Powers Brian D Williams "Vladimir Z. Nuri" !!!!! SUPPORTERS OF MR/MS ANONYMOUS E. Clark, who wrote: Subject: A vote for ANON's position [with reservations] Supporters of the Leahy Bill are, to me, well-intentioned dupes. I've lurked on this list under this and a previous usename since the list was a couple months old. I came here to learn crypto, not debate politics. And, while the urge has often been all but overwhelming, I've for most part kept my silence, prefering back channels to posting on the list. The Politics of the Absurd has in the last year or three found me in agreement with figures on the national scene whose pockets I would decline to piss were their balls on fire. Nor am I quite comfy siding with anonymous in regard to the Leahy Bill, but... I neither like nor trust the bill and, after the Digital Telephony Bill and its manner of passage, my trust in the good senator is zero. I am still a little puzzled why there was so little discussion on the list of what Freeh might have told the congresscritters that long summer when he seems to have visited them all. Sort of makes this leftie wonder if, just maybe, the rightwing conspiracy boys who claim the unusual number of congressional dropouts was the result of FINCIN findings might not have stumbled upon a quarter-grain of truth. While I applaud the efforts of those working for the cause in the political sphere, I have scant faith. Business will be on the side of privacy until it gets what it wants, then walk away from individual concerns for privacy, etc. I've always enjoyed your posts and sense of humor. Apologies for going on at length. e. clark --- Comments, Anonymous?