-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Does shifting the cost of millions of dollars every month on to other businesses, individuals and governments qualify as "significant (heck, even measurable) harm"? Yes. Spam is VERY EXPENSIVE -- this document explains why... http://www.techweb.com/se/directlink.cgi?INW19980504S0003 Spam has also been defined, *in multiple court cases*, as "trespassing upon a chattel", as denial of service attacks (from the flood of bounces from the fake return addresses crippling third party servers, )fraud and damaging business reputations (when spammers use fake addresses to blame innocent 3rd party businesses), and as theft of service. Do you consider trespassing, denial of service attacks, fraud, damaging reputations, and stealing services ethical behavior? "All that is needed for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." - -Edmond Burke "Shut up and eat your spam" - -Anonymous Spammer - - James D. Wilson, CCDA, MCP "non sunt multiplicanda entia praeter necessitatem" William of Ockham (1285-1347/49) - -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Elliott [mailto:k-elliott@wiu.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 1:40 PM To: James Wilson; cypherpunks@cyberpass.net Subject: Re: FW: BLOCK: AT&T signs bulk hosting contract with spammers At 07:40 -0800 11/1/00, James Wilson wrote:
If any of you get services from AT&T you might want to start looking for a more ethical carrier (if one exists) - AT&T has been caught red handed hosting spammers and promising not to terminate their services.
You know, I don't like spammers any more than the next guy, but come on. Unethical? we're not talking genocide and it's not like it cause significant (heck, even measurable) harm. - -- "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." - -- Justice William O. Douglas ____________________________________________________________________ Kevin "The Cubbie" Elliott <mailto:kelliott@mac.com> ICQ#23758827 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2 Comment: I live for the sound ... of nothing but net iQA/AwUBOgLZWiavYwibXjmcEQKPFwCg6h4ZhSCJF2qBkUzFfdf/Tifx9gQAoNgS GBc8d1bx/SKe5ovFcMmA4gaa =x7sP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----