-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I've been reading more about export controls, and found these cases which may be of interest: US v Elder, 579 F.2d 516 (9th Cir, 1978). Prohibition on export of technical data includes provision of assistance to foreign manufacturers of items which would be on the Munitions List if manufactured domestically. This prohibition does not interfere with First Amend. free speech protection when narrowly interpreted to apply only to tech. data "significantly and directly related" to items on the Munitions List. Conviction under 22 USCA 1934 (since repealed, but similar to 22 USCA 2778, which applies now) requires that where tech data has both military and nonmilitary uses, prosecution must establish accused knew or had reason to know of its application towards a prohibited purpose. US v Van Hee, 531 F.2d 354 (6th Cir, 1976). Personal knowledge can constitute "technical data" for purposes of regulations restricting export of munitions. Exemption applying to "public domain" technical data applies only to technical data in published form. Exemption for public domain tech data must be claimed at time of export, not at trial, and package/letter must be marked as claimed exempt. US v. Donas-Botto, 363 F.Supp 191 (E.D.Mich, S.D. 1973). "Technical data" as used in the ITAR includes "technical knowledge", and its transmission is not protected by the First Amendment. The US also claims the right to prosecute for violations of the ITAR committed by non-citizens while located in foreign countries, even where the subject matter is owned by a foreign government. See US v Evans, 667 F.Supp 974 (S.D.N.Y, 1987) for a chilling story indeed. I'm going to be on vacation for a few weeks, and probably won't be checking the list; in order to avoid misunderstanding, the summaries above are my own and I believe they're accurate. I haven't found anything which overturns or disagrees with the above. My own ideas about "freedom of speech" don't match the above, but that's probably not surprising. My questions about the above: o When does export take place? When the technical data leaves the country, or when it is transferred to a foreign party? (my guess is the latter, at least with respect to "technical knowledge") o Do I need a license from the State Department if I know how to do RSA and I want to go bar-hopping in Tijuana? (just kidding, but there's a real question in there somewhere.) Discussion on the list about export regulation has focussed on violations of the ITAR; but prosecution is also possible under 22 USC 2778, with maximum penalties of $1M and 10 years in prison. Ouch. If there's going to be an LA-area C-punks meeting, will someone please send E-mail? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.5 iQCVAgUBLdKAqX3YhjZY3fMNAQEXWQP9H+WGzXZYki4BXYJI1C4dYQItXHIxAj/9 rKpu5qvnLk3F/cG+vwBB7d6C9g/hRAJQwYSxw1OEI/GG4Es6rqDmpaD7oQeu+mX0 IV/B89gUQuP/YbARLlgH2nTbpxk8gXNQnRDXQlhjJzIzs+yiRGrL9ggTNfNTYh9R AOkTBh7aRTg= =/0G2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----