At 18:57 2003-07-24 -0700, Tim May wrote:
On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 05:11 PM, Justin wrote:
Tim May (2003-07-24 19:50Z) wrote:
We should also fight the use of sloppy language in the press when mundane electronic funds transfer systems are called "digital cash."
Is there anything to fight?
The only instance of "digital cash" on google news (there's one reference to "digital cash registers", which I'm not counting) is an article about proffr's "x needs killing" comments. The article doesn't abuse the term "digital cash", though it does abuse the term "listserv".
The term doesn't appear in print often enough to matter, IMO.
PLONK.
Way too many fools on Cypherpunks these last several months. Maybe it's time to kill it.
I think its been dead for some time now. Most of those on the list are The motto "cypherpunks should have written code" is emblazoned across the tombstone. As some of you know there have been a number of aborted attempts, few serious, to build a digital cash (Chaumian sense) code base from which to catalyze useful commercial ventures. During the go-go '90s all the talented coders on this list were off chasing the bubble rainbow and had no time for such pipe dreams. Now that many are un- or under-employed there still doesn't seem to be any activity by those active on this list in this critical infrastructure area. All the recent work that is being done (e.g., Orlin Grabbe's ALTA/DMT http://orlingrabbe.com/redirect.htm, Patrick McCuller's Lucrative http://lucrative.thirdhost.com, YodelBank http://yodelbank.com/, InvisibelNet http://invisiblenet.net) has been undertaken by real cypherpunks, a few monitor this list but rarely if ever post. I can only conclude that with the exceptions of the early CPs, who helped build the first remailers and such, most list members now are losers and sycophants. Time to move over for the next crop of motivated libertarian cypherpunks. The cypherpunks are dead, long live the cypherpunks! steve "We are much beholden to Machiavelli and others that write what men do, not what they ought to do." -Francis Bacon