~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Black Unicorn wrote:
How will borderline posts be dealt with? Posts that contain a great deal of content and thoughful discussion and still manage to contain flames?
Will flames be an automatic boot for a post (zero tolerance), or will they be balanced against post content?
Zero tolerance will be my first approximation. I may modify that as I see how things really work out. So far, though, I don't recall see any of those "high content with flames" animals. Most posts are one or the other.
What is the threshold which, for example, constitutes an "insult" ?
"Louis Freeh couldn't identify a directed well managed crypto policy if it bit him on his pimple speckled ass."
Truth (and relevance) are a defense. :-)
"You are so turned around on this issue one is prompted to wonder if you have any background in higher education at all."
"For the new members of the list, [insert list member here] has a history of posting idiotic and useless posts, and generally wasting the list's time like an asshole."
All of the above? None of the above?
Sorry Black Unicorn, no declaratory judgments. Everything gets posted one way or another. Let's see how it works in the real world.
I believe the "flames" list should be maintained as long as possible. Continuing checks on the moderator (whoever it may be) are necessary and appropriate. What better way than to directly provide a means to identify what the moderator has excluded?
This is my opinion as well. However, John makes the very good point that the unedited list has one very important advantage-- timeliness. The other two lists (polite and flames) have a build in delay time because of the moderation. I don't see it as a problem, but John feels that quick turnaround is an advantage that some list members would prefer.
A diversity of moderators makes a detailed stated policy on moderation an absolute must.
I agree. We are not at that stage yet, however. We are still finding our sea legs for now. S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~