On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 06:52 PM, Matthew Gaylor wrote:
[Note from Matthew Gaylor: Last Thursday I sent a posting titled "Cultural libertarianism the real threat to America?" See: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/message/1416 by National Review Online Editor Jonah Goldberg where he made The Libertarian Lie By Jonah Goldberg, NRO editor Responding to Nick Gillespie and Virginia Postrel.
Jonah Goldberg can be reached at (JonahEmail@aol.com). ....
[entire article by Goldberg and introductory comments by Gaylor snipped, due to their boring nature] I bogged down about a third of the way into Goldberg's article. It reminded me of why I was so bored at the one and only Libertarian Party State Convention I attended (in California, circa 1991. Russell Means was the only interesting speaker. The rest were beyond merely boring.) This kind of "debate" amongst apologists is why the Cypherpunks exist. I hope more people read this essay so that more of them will give up on the Libertarian Party. (If it matters to anyone, I voted for John Hospers in 1972 and I debated the Nolan Chart wth that very guy. Lots of libertoonians here in California. I met David Friedman in 1974. I tend to call myself a libertarian, when I'm not calling myself an anarcho-capitalist, but the Libertarian Party qua Party is utterly irrelevant and boring. Lots of nerdy clerks nattering about natural rights and quoting Rothbard. Gag!) --Tim May, Corralitos, California Quote of the Month: "It is said that there are no atheists in foxholes; perhaps there are no true libertarians in times of terrorist attacks." --Cathy Young, "Reason Magazine," both enemies of liberty.