Agreed, not much economic pressure would come from directly boycotting Clipper phones, or for that matter from people boycotting AT&T for ideological reasons. Rather, it would come from AT&T getting a reputation as putting the U.S. government's needs before the needs of their customers; and not caring very much about the privacy of their customers' phone calls. What international business, law firm, etc. wants to trust their communications to a company that puts NSA wiretap chips in their phones and touts them as "secure"? A good outcome here is for this fiasco to get wide publicity, and for Sprint, MCI, etc. to subtly use doubts about AT&T's concern for privacy in their ad campaigns. A recent cypherpunks post refferred to a conversation with an AT&T marketing type, who kept insisting that AT&T is very concerned about customer privacy, it's a high priority, etc. AT&T knows they need a good reputation for privacy. Keep up the pressure! Nick Szabo szabo@techbook.com