Tim May <tcmay@got.net> writes:
At 8:08 AM -0700 8/13/97, Declan McCullagh wrote:
But Conti skirted the more controversial question: What if someone did use Photoshop to synthesize images of half-naked children?
Let me assure you that such images are available. I might be tempted to say I know exactly where to find them, and may have even taken a look at them ("as part of my campaign to determine the extend of child porn" :-} ), but in this climate that might get me a couple of SWAT vans roaring up my hillside...and then I'd have to make some quick decisions about shooting or going peacably.
Yup. Btw have you thought about booby trapping your place with enough semtex to remove half the hill-top? Somewhat like Raven in Snow Crash -- detonator for fusion device in his 'bikes side car was linked to his brain waves ceasing unexpectedly. Police were running around trying to protect him. The age of personal nukes, heh. I guess the danger is that it detonates by accident.
Such images (including non-morphed images of real nude children, or even of children engaging in sex, and so on) are, by the way, good candidates for Eternity servers. If the Eternity operators freak out and ban such images, so much for "Eternity." Perhaps they could then be named "Ephemeral" servers.
I suspect child porn would be kind of the ultimate test :-) Let's hope we can defer that argument for a few months until there are more servers. It'll be interesting to see how well the argument that it's just a USENET gateway holds out. Also interesting to see how well operators can stick to the principle of unconditional free speech when faced with some "speech" which makes them puke. The NSA hand book, mykotronix dumpster goodies or more secret materials probably aren't that sensitive in that once they're leaked there's not so much point attempting to control their distribution. Anyone who matters will already have a copy, and making a fuss about re-distribution probably increases the interest, and number of people who will read the material. If eternity lives up to it's name child porn could be published. Personally my feeling about child molestors, and real life child pornographers is lynch them. Child pornographers and pedophiles operate in the real world, and they get caught. Problem is they let them go again despite 80+% re-offense rate. Hence cry for "lynch them". There was some sicko in this town who molested a 7 year old girl over a 2 year time span. Turned himself in, and got 1 year jail time. He's out an about cocky as ever, not even repentant. Back in the days of the wild-west such types wouldn't live long. "He needed killing" used to be I understand a perfectly satisfactory legal defense. btw "Child pornographer" is a difficult term to define towards the boundary, eg Tracy Lords was underage at the begining of here career, also the age of consent is much lower in the liberal Scandinavian countries. Last time we had this argument James Donald posted to the list a uuencoded gif of some chick, I guess the claim was she was just underage by US standards. Adam -- Have *you* exported RSA today? --> http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc`