Wen Ho Lee, Robert Hanssen, screwed-up lab tests, failure to detect Aldrich Ames, missing handguns, Waco, Ruby Ridge...the portrait of a dysfunctional agency, right? Far from it, from what I can see. Some of the examples are marginally silly, some are due to pressures from bureaucrats, some are things which virtually no organization on earth could have detected. I'm not a particular friend of the FBI, as the Seattle and Portland offices will probably acknowledge, but I seen no particular _decline_ in quality such as the article Matt Gaylor posted suggests. The spotlight is much brighter today, there are many more reporting outlets. And the Net magnifies conspiracy theories. (I believe Waco was mishandled badly--the preacher should have just been picked up by the local Sheriff or arrested on one of his many trips into town or walks along his fence. And I believe Ruby Ridge was an example of a barricade situation which didn' t need to happen. The "crime" of selling a long gun with a barrel one quarter of an inch too short was both a "set up" (to induce cooperation by Randy Weaver) and shouldn't have been a crime in the first place. These are mistakes, not evidence of a Bureau that has become incompetent or malevolent.) The Wen Ho Lee case is much more mysterious. Maybe he _was_ a Chinese spy...certainly China is an emerging superpower with the willingness to recruit spies. We do it, the Russians do it, the French and Germans do it, why not the Chinese? What about missing weapons? Well, large organizations lose all kinds of things. Including guns. Big deal. Hanssen? The Sovs knew that recruiting agents within the FBI's counter-spy division was the equivalent of recruiting agents at Los Alamos in the 1940s. Did the FBI miss some warning signs? Probably. Did Jim Bamford miss some warning signs? Yep. (Bamford was a friend of Hanssen's.) How about the bad lab results? Sure. Shit happens. But, all in all, I see no particular evidence that the FBI is in a state of moral or professional collapse. I think I'd rather have been working for Louis Freeh these past 10 years than a weirdo like J. Edgar Hoover and his queen Tolson. (I had and still have profound disagreement with Freeh and Jim Kellstrom (spelling? I used to know his name, but it escapes me right now) over things like Clipper, key escrow, and no knock raids, but I thought they were competent, professional, and intelligent adversaries. They never knew who I was, obviously, but we were in the same competency league. In my opinion, of course.) Thinking of the FBI as Keystone Kops is dangerous, which is why I am writing this note. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May tcmay@got.net Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns