At the cypherpunks meeting in SF during CodeCon, I think it was Dave Del Torto who asked for a show of hands of punks looking for work. It was better than half. With the economy starting to improve and rumors of a trickle of VC money, now might not be a bad time to try and launch a start up. I know Sandy was trying to get something started down south. I've been spending allot of time on cypherpunk type projects, but with a day job progress has been slow and hard. I'd be interested in joining a company to work on something that could translate into technical progress for the cypherpunk movement. I think there's good opportunity in digital signature applications, PKI alternatives, and reputation systems. Unfortunately, I don't see opportunity with electronic currency - at least not in the US. - VAB