Windows sucks. (but you knew that already) It has no /dev/random or /dev/urandom, and I'm faced with a need to collect some good-quality entropy for a crypto app. Adding to the merriment, the systems involved will be semi-headless and are unlikely to have a hardware RNG. (e.g. though they may have rodentia and keyboards, neither is likely to be in use, and I can't require a HWRNG) All the entropy collectors I've seen mentioned for Windows (and there aren't many... EGADS seems to be the leading contender) use keyboard timing and mouse position as primary sources. I just need enough to seed a PRNG, but I also can't wait around forever to collect it. What's a cpunk to do? (sorry, migrating to *nix isn't viable in this case) -- Roy M. Silvernail is roy@rant-central.com, and you're not "Antelope Freeway, one sixty-fourth of a mile." - TFT http://www.rant-central.com