I should know by now that whenever I get an idea and send it to the list it ends up getting lots of addons and changes from other list members. So.... I added an X-TTL field to the header. It reads it, decrements it, and writes it. If it's in the message received, it will be decremented and passed on. If it isn't in the message, it will be set to one then later decremented (last stop). If it should be zero when it arrives, it will be swallowed up. Messages that get sent will have a header field of X-TTL with a value of zero or greater. Note that it shows up as X-Ttl in ELM, but doesn't matter in the software because it converts everything to lowercase then checks it against its keyword list. The X-TTL field can be either in the main header or in the pasted "::" header block. I suppose that if the TTL is greater than zero when it goes to send, the remailer should throw in another remailer's name at random and make up its own "::" header block, but that is for later... Chael -- Chael Hall nowhere@bsu-cs.bsu.edu, 00CCHALL@BSUVC.BSU.EDU, chall@bsu.edu (317) 776-4000 from 8 am - 5 pm CST