-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 1:01 AM -0600 3/28/04, bgt wrote:
you state openly in your policy that you're not to be trusted!
Think about it for a second. Anonymizer is set up to prevent *businesses*, stalkers, and small-time crooks like spammers, from seeing your behavior on the net and annoying you there. What's he going to do when uncle Fed shows up with guns? Have a shootout or something? :-) The point to cypherpunks as always been this, folks: Do not rely on *people*, especially people and *laws*, to protect your anonymity from, if you will, national technical means -- guys with guns and rubber hoses. That's what remailers are for, speaking of Lance, the guy who wrote Mixmaster. *Use* them. Build them. Make 'em better. And, if you're upset that you can't *surf* anonymously, sure as hell don't blame Lance. Blame the state of *markets* for such onion-routing services as Zero Knowledge's Freedom, or, even, the lack of interest in the open source community to build an equivalent. Meaning *buy* stuff when it comes on the market, and *use* someone's code when it shows up on sourceforge, or wherever, report bugs, and help *out*, instead of pissing and moaning that a single-hop anonymity service doesn't provide perfect anonymity against national technical means. More important, if you, personally, can do something about it, write code. If not, *hire* someone to write code. And, if you can't do *that*, then quit whining at the people who are actually *doing* something, anything, however small it is, in the right direction. Like Lance. Especially Lance. Certainly, if something you do pisses off the Uncle Fed, he's got the muscle to kick your ass. Live with it. Work around it. Use what's there to keep from getting your ass kicked. Progress is about doing something that hasn't been done before so that you have the *freedom* to do what you want. For example, Julf provided a single-stop remailer with penet. Some "church" subpoenaed him out of business. Fine. Do something else. Just don't sit there and whine about it. These days, there are *more* and better remailers out there (thanks to people like Lance) than a single hop one in Finland. Could it be better? Sure. So make it better instead of whining about it. And, finally, one last thing. After 5 or 6 years of it from Tim, who started this list, and the original physical meetings, it's no secret I've gotten really tired of the "need killing" chest-puffing bullshit. Tim was bad enough, but, at least -- and in ever-decreasing usefulness -- he had something substantive to say. Self-reference is a bitch, :-), but people who say other people "need killing" need killing themselves, and, frankly, deserve everything they get for saying so in otherwise civil discourse. Unpopular opinion is one thing, but bad manners is a mortal offense in my opinion. :-). So, try to act like adults, people. Not like a bunch of 12 year old boys who just found a loaded BAR in the garage. Cheers, RAH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQGbpFMPxH8jf3ohaEQI2tQCg6ruUCCQ/q15O9Ps75ldDTB9tTWgAn1DD TmCabJz2jSjv7noQeaT0Ncb+ =mX/0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'