On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
No, you forwarded *my* message responding to the spam-solicitation to UUNET, and asked them to take action against *me*.
You're losing it Declan: when you have to start putting words into my mouth, you at the point where you need to step back, take a deep breath, and realize you have crossed over... *NOWHERE* in the below complaint will you see *ANY* proof of your assertion that I "asked them to take action against *me* [McCullagh]". You have been reduced to whimperings that even your supporters can see are utter fabrications.
I have the complete headers. So what? I have the complete MESSAGE. Reproduced here, (my outgoing headers omitted as irrelevant, since I openly ack sending this email):
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= BEGIN MY EMAIL COMPLAINT TO BROADWING/UUNET =-=--=-=-=-=
From declan@well.com Fri Mar 30 20:09:38 2001 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:42:29 -0500 From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> Reply-To: cypherpunks@ssz.com To: Ganesh Acharya <GaneshA@icode.com> Cc: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com Subject: Re: CDR: Required- Direct e-mail(Bulk) service
Cypherpunks are well-known providers of Bulk-email HTML spam campaigns. As a "marketing analyst," you've clearly come to the right place. -Declan On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 05:48:17PM +0530, Ganesh Acharya wrote:
Hi,
We are looking forward to conduct a Bulk e-mail (HTML) campaign targeting the SMEs and hence a bulk e-mail service provider. In this concern I would like to know a few details: 1) Do you mail HTML mails? 2) In the context of the campaign can you host our micro site as until the campaign gets over? 3) Do you provide targeted e-mail addresses targeting the SMEs?
I would appreciate if you can mail me the cost involved and any additional service you provide in the domain of targeted bulk e-mail campaigns, ASAP. Thanks.
Ganesh Acharya Marketing Analyst - Web Icode Inc Ph: (703) 934 4700 Ext - 294 Fx: (703) 934 4708 mail: ganesha@icode.com www.icode.com
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= END OF MY EMAIL COMPLAINT TO BROADWING/UUNET =-=-=-=-=-=
The reason I wrote about it is because it shows, as an online society, how hypersensitive we've become to spam. It requires all three people
Here we go again: "three people". Poor little Declan isn't responible for *ANY* of his little betwetting mess, now *is he*???
in the spam-complaint chain to overreact: You (accidentally, you say),
Again with making up what you would LIKE to hear. Please quote where I said *anything even remotely LIKE* "I overreacted". I do not think I overreacted at all. I send a complaint about some idjit who was too stupid to even obtain a spam host without putting his foot in his mouth. I don't consider this overreacting. In fact, given the unbelievable pathetic attempt he made, I think it was rather appropriate.
uunet (intentionally),
I wouldn't know, as UU.net has not yet sent me anything on this "issue" other than the standard "thanks for making a complaint, now get lost" missive.
and my provider (intentionally, probably).
Hrmmm.. So is broadwing your provider as well? Since broadwing and UU were the only ones I complained to, your statements here imply that.
Different actions by any of them would have derailed the spamcident.
More smoke and mirrors Declan: this isn't about "the spamincident" and you know it. It's a bout a spoiled little brat who got his panties all knotted up because he thought someone had tried to complain about him, and then abused his reputation for accuracy and fairness as a journalist to try and "get even".
Frankly, I've also been meaning to send out my econlib.org column for a while, and this gave me an excuse to mention it.
Better ways of dealing with spam can avoid this in the future.
Really? Don't you mean something more along the lines of "Beter ways of dealing with others can avoid this in the future."???
-Declan
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