On Tuesday, August 14, 2001, at 02:36 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 01:53:58PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
Third, the issue of online porn, the CDA, the Amateur Action case, etc. have been discussed many times here.
The NRC study will be very important in Washington DC circles (less important than the Meese commission, more important than the COPA Commission). While it may be of passing interest to cypherpunks, many of these topics have been discussed before, as Tim says, which explains why there's little reaction.
And there is, after all, VERY LITTLE that such a study should do. Some people don't like porn, some people like it. Some subscribe to porn sites, some surf for free, some even generate online and other porn. Some people don't want their husbands to access porn. Some don't mind. Some don't want their children to access porn. Some don't mind. Some people don't want bookstores to carry "To Kill a Mockingbird," some people don't want them to carry "Lolita." Some don't mind. However, in a free society with protections similar to the First Amendment, what people like or dislike is not germane to what government may pass laws about. There is nothing in the First which allows government to regulate speech or music or any other such form of expression based on its offensiveness to some. Nothing. (The landmark Supreme Court cases on obscenity, like Miller, have to do with fairly gross obscenity. Not that I agree they were justified, but the "online decency" issue is a long way from what the Supremes have said may be banned.) "For the children!" is no more a reason to trump the First for Web sites than it would be to trump the First for bookstores, for example, by requiring that "Lolita" be kept in an adult's only section. Or that children not be allowed to enter bookstore's containing images and text deemed unaccepable by some. Nor is "self labelling" acceptable under the First. My words are my words, my pages are my pages. I don't have to "rate" them for how a Muslim might feel about them, or how Donna Rice might react, or whether I included material "offensive" to Creationists. Nothing in the First Whether the technology yet exists to allow parents (or wives) to block certain sites is neither here nor there, and it's a shame something called "The National Research Council" is getting involved in this. By the way, this is an area which is ideal for an analysis using Larry Lessig's "tripod" of "Custom" vs. "Law" vs. "Technology." I wrote about Lessig's model a few years ago. (I haven't read his latest book, "Code," so I don't how he fleshes out the idea....I have combined it with my own models. Maybe I'll write up some thoughts. (Not for Herb Lin, of course. Nothing against him, but these "studies" are usually just opinion polls and are crushingly boring reads. I tried to read the NRC's "Crypto" report...even went to the Palo Alto unveiling. B-o-r-i-n-g!) --Tim May