Diffie should stick to cryto, outside of that he's an idiot and doesn't know of what he speaks. Hell, all those socialists at Sun seem to be idiot savants. If it was only a thermal imaging device involved it might fly (like a bird can cross your property line with impunity). However, all the thermal image device does is frequency shift the radiation to a range that IS VISIBLE BY HUMAN EYES. It's still a human being looking at the image and making evaluations of it. Further, I'd like to see the definition of 'search' that is dependent upon the mechanism, there is no such definition. 'Search' is about intent, not method. 'Mechanism' is certainly NEVER mentioned in the 4th. Where did this extra stricture come from? Where is it's justification? "Why" and "How" are irrelevent in respect to a search. That one WANTS is sufficient. And, no. I'm no 'leftie'. ____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 George@Orwellian.Org wrote:
Chaos Universe wrote: # Is a visible light search needful of a warrant? # If so then why is the frequency of the radiation an issue?
What this list needs is another space-cadet to answer him. Yer one of them whacky left-handers, ain't cha?
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The point at which you start peering into someone's castle without a warrant is considered by some to be "too-far", and deserving of constitution claims of protection.
It's no longer a human peering in, it's a cyborg.
A Thermal Imaging search of a home without a warrant is a technological attack on privacy.
Whitfield Diffie, Distinguished Engineer---Security at Sun Microsystems:
"An essential element of freedom is the right to privacy, a right that cannot be expected to stand against an unremitting technological attack."
Therefore the issue of frequency is an issue.
What's the frequency, Jimmy?