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Someone wrote me in private - << Yes, we want to see On Sun, 31 May 1998 StanSqncrs@aol.com wrote: the
right-wing/ChristianCoalition cult. If anyone wants to see my evidence, let me know. >>
I caught an Amway employee (works in Ada and everything) on a music list engaging in the censorship of the messages in that band's music. But first, a who's who of the people involved in the war on the Arts/Music - gopher://gopher.igc.apc.org/00/orgs/alternet/demval/cultwars You'll notice Mr. and Mrs. Richard DeVos of the DeVos foundation listed, his son runs Amway, and Richard was the guy who started it (along with another person). Here's my Amway employee threatening to use Amway lawyers against someone (me) simply trying to speak on a music list - ===== In a message dated 4/27/98 8:43:23 AM Central Daylight Time, Russell_Gorton@amway.com writes: <snip> << ... buddy. I'm just down the hall from a team of about 80 high-powered lawyers who are fledgling experts in Internet harassment issues (amway.com is a very-flamed, very-hacked, very high-profile domain. >> <snip> << --Russell Thomas Gorton Amway Corporation (yup, the direct-sell soap empire) Ada, Michigan, USA >> ===== Of course, I do admit, that I do speak from a left POV. ;-) You see, the band is a band called Camel, and I like to talk about their lyrics. One song's lyrics I posted was this one - ===== 'Refugee' - 'Stationary Traveer' (lyrics by Susan Hoover) There's a rumour flying through the air Paranoia's creeping everywhere. You're gonna raise a wall - to draw the line You say you've got your reasons I hear them all the time You say it's talking treason and a crime ... to question why Don't you know I've seen this all before? History repeats itself once more. I don't want to go - and I can't stay You say you've got your reasons I hear them all the time You say it's talking treason and a crime ... to question why I don't want to be a refugee, I just want a single guarantee. I don't want to be a refugee I JUST WANT THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE. ===== Basicly, Russell is part of a right-wing gang working the Camelogue list. It is documented here - http://members.aol.com/whtsametau/ofir.html. It's called The Humpheads. When you get the the code - "&y", though, haven't updated that. Here's something I snuck to the Camelogue list - ===== 3) Fish. X-tian fish. You can find a real one here on &y's server (if not in the supposed user's address ;-) ) - http://www.roadkill.com/~dpgerdes/ But these guys don't like to do business with folk other than their own, that's why they use that symbol. Here's where &y's X-tian fish is - "&y". Take the & and remove the top loop of it in your mind, and it certainly looks MUCH like an X-tian fish! That's how I found &y's picture, I looked for that symbol on his server. You see, his compadres know what to look for. Can you say "right-wing conspiracy"? Sure, I knew ya could! ===== &y (Andy) Burnett is the "moderator nazi" (his words) of that list. He has no real info about himself on his facad server - Roadkill Consulting (www.roadkill.com). But he had a picture stashed (in a 5 meg movie) in a place that only his right-wing buddies (or someone observing the right-wing conspiracy) would think to click. On one of his supposed user's boring pages at the very bottom in fine print where he thanks "&y" for his webspace, and the "&y" is a link. So, if you also see a bunch of evidence against folk other than the Amway employee, remember, that Amway employee is part of a gang, and that accomplices in crimes are JUST as guilty as the actual trigger-person, therefore, you need to know what his compadres are also doing. Stan, 'Wall of Reality' Webring http://members.aol.com/RealityWal/