-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- on or about 971001:1644 Tim May <tcmay@got.net> purported to expostulate: [snip antecedent] +Let's not forget that cops are often the bad guys. [read Tim's excellent analysis and list in original] the thin blue line: just whose side are the police on? "the police are the lowest element of our society" (either Cato or Marcellus at the time of Julius Caesar) the cop is often a thug with a clean enough record to join the force and continue his trade. if you want to break heads, join the police; if you want to destroy buildings, join the fire department. these [wo]men may be public servants, but as Tim points out, just who is the master. In the US, "We the people" should be the masters, but are we? obviously not. read my DejaVu - Cypherpunks as Philosopher Kings. yes, it is inflammatory, but the cards are on the table. we're being set up to have less rights that are available under the UN declaration which has the same right of assembly and protest --as long as it is not against the security of the state. if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. obvious, particularly in America; but think of another implication: if the government of the US no longer truly represents "We the people," is not the government an outlaw government? "if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" takes on a whole new meaning... and, remember, we are not fighting a war with guns; we are fighting a war for the control of communication and information and that is one of the primary functions of cypherpunks: to ensure the freedom of speech, including [specifically] encrypted speech. -- "Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn in no other." --Benjamin Franklin ______________________________________________________________________ "attila" 1024/C20B6905/23 D0 FA 7F 6A 8F 60 66 BC AF AE 56 98 C0 D7 B0 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQCVAwUBNDPP1L04kQrCC2kFAQH5cgP/dfDgD4fZuzp/2yLN6RUwkr0UMiCcjR9F IYSiW4aosOPiG2cZSWZOJn+trwvWYjKU4sLRos0c+W/9gRDh99URz1cG93iIDb71 iWbX4Qn4c57LU0pEGZaDygKtOzVZHAramN9yucIFlBy5bkYS65x7HMmco5OkmBtA Fx7kaiXlIP8= =OPCA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----