On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Dale Thorn wrote:
Black Unicorn wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Dale Thorn wrote:
Marc J. Wohler wrote:
I have the utmost confidence in Sandy and his efforts to revive the quality of our list.
And I have all the confidence in the world in William Bennett, George Bush, and all their wonderful helpers in helping with the Boys and Girls Clubs of Southern California. Why not re-elect Hitler?
One knows one has come up with a potent weapon against one's enemies when they begin to panic visibly like this. The smell of fear is in the air.
Fear? What fear? I had a long and productive life before I subscribed here, and what with 1,000 or so programming projects awaiting me (and most other competent programmers), I certainly won't be wasting time bemoaning the fact that Sandy Sandfort "won" here, any more than I bemoan the fact that most wars anywhere are won by the bad guys.
Uh, Mr. Thorn, you already have wasted time in exactly that way.
The question is, will the ultimate internet trump card of a distractor (Reference Godwin's law) divert the issue and save poor Mr. Thorn from a policy which is certainly going to be a devastating impact on his public exposure from here on out?
I'll tell you something else. If I have an opportunity to contribute to a project that can fight censorship of this kind, I will do so eagerly.
Calling the moderation plan on the table "censorship" is quite a stretch. I'm sure it serves your rhetorical purposes, but other than that it is merely hot air.
OTOH, I have no "tentacles", nor will I ever have such things. I am not a communications, security, O/S, or other such kind of programmer/person, and I will not get into those types of applications short of physically saving my life. In other words, if Sandfort/Gilmore cuts me off in the long run, it's doubtful you'd hear from me again unless something is forwarded from Freedom-Knights, and even that is doubtful.
It does amuse me that George Bush and William Bennett are thrown out for fear mongering purposes before Godwin's law is invoked.
One would think you would understand the principle of using examples to illustrate a point.
When those examples are chosen in a logical and directed way to accomplish the intended association, yes. You, however, have failed on both accounts here.
The very idea that those names would automatic- ally inspire fear is amusing.
Your propaganda knowledge is sorely lacking for one who would aspire to influence thought by invoking Hitler and Bush in consecutive sentences. I admire your honesty in admitting yourself that those names were poorly chosen, however.
One would think Mr. Thorn had mistaken the list for a liberal stronghold.
Having read a lot of the crap put out by organizations from the KKK to the ADL (all scumbags BTW), I no longer take the naive position that a person is "liberal"
Seems your reading habits and choice of material have twisted your psyche a bit beyond the point of reason.
(hence, one-dimensional) or "conservative", or any other convenient tag. Some people are liars, hypocrites, and assholes, though, and I prefer to determine that by their actions rather than their speculations.
You're batting 0 for 5.
Then again, no one ever accused Mr. Dale "Snake Oil" Thorn of being afflicted with a strong writer's sense of audience).
You mean I don't tailor my prose to what people want to hear?
I mean you have no clue what prose is appropriate and what is not. Selling snake oil on this list, for example.
Better yet, I don't go somewhere else where maybe I would be more welcome with my ideas?
That you don't flaunt ideas clearly flawed to the experts in the field would be a better example.
I'm embarrassed for you, for your lack of imagination. And if the "snake oil" tag refers to my ideas on crypto software (i.e.., PGP), well, you have a long way to go before you provide a serious mental challenge to me.
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