I reply to this message going point by point, within the original text... so scroll down if you care to read what I wrote..
AI recently saw a posting about right v. wrong or good v. evil. These are subjective terms as any good semanticist knows. But what is real
Neither good nor evil is subjective to anything... if something is absolutely evil, then there is nothing that will make it good... (and vice versa <SP?>)
and what is unreal is a much more difficult thing to determine. It requires rigorous thinking without prejudice or belief getting in the way.
As to law. The first of the Bill of Rights says:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
If you are going to quote something, do it fully and accurately. It isn't that hard and if you don't have a copy of the constitution laying around then either get one or keep your damn mouth shut until you know what you are talking about.
as to the above thing about quoting, I agree...
No, the words "seperation of church and state" do not appear but then neither does "privacy", but it is damn well implied by the 4th amendment.
I disagree with the above... I'll explain later
Those self-righteous pricks who want bible reading in the schools and
speaking of invalid arguments... might the above be an <gasp!> ad hominem (abusive) attack ?!?
rail against those who recite the 1st amendment either lack understanding of the term "reading" or are being dishonest by
ditto to my previous comment
insisting that disallowing teachers to read the bible to students is wrong and that the constitution needs to be amended. Anyone with any honesty would realize that the first amendment doesn't prohibit bible reading by students or even bible study in a historical context. It
as for the teachers reading the Bible to their classes, I would agree that that is a violation of the first amendment... however, the Bible is a useful teaching tool as far as understanding history, as much of history is influenced by the Bible or parts of it (the crusades, the inquisition, various countries' foundings/gov't systems, and, of course, the United States' history). Using the Bible in a historical context passes the Lemon test (guidelines laid out by the USSC regarding gov't attitude towards religion)
merely prohibits tax-paid teachers from "respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;". If I see just one more bible-thumping zealot message about "would you care to show us where "seperation of church and state" is to be found in the constitution/bill of rights?" I will be tempted to take him out in the parking lot and pound sand into the parts which are unaccustomed to this substance.
okay, so this is a new kind of fallacy... the appeal to a physical threat as a means of winning an argument... great... you seem to be very well rounded in making a variety of false arguments...
I am all for separation of school and state. Show me where in the constitution/bill of rights everyone is entitled to a theft/tax funded education. This would solve church and state in schools
I defintiely agree with the above...
wouldn't it. If you don't like your kids getting a non-religious education from the godless state, you are free to pull them out and put them into a private school of your choice. But of course it isn't
I was homeschooled for four years...(against my will)
your kids you are worried about is it? It's all those other peoples kids that aren't getting the benefit of the word of the one true Christian god that you want to help isn't it!
no, actually it's more the insistence of the schools to present only the humanist approach (which I consider a religion), rather than presenting the facts as they are that bothers me...
Hypocrisy is the Vaseline(tm) of political intercourse!
Edwin E. Smith
how lovely.... Jaeger