Date sent: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:10:37 -0400 To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net From: John Young <jya@pipeline.com> Subject: A Cypherpunk Trial, Yes Send reply to: John Young <jya@pipeline.co
As i'am one of persons mention in Toto's posts I would just like to say I think the posts were a joke. With the help of of Vullis I was a pain to the list and this was Toto's way of acknowledging this To the government readers of this list,the cigar was Cuban,will you put Bill in the cell with Toto.
http://jya.com/jg062397.htm http://jya.com/jg090497.htm http://jya.com/jg120997.htm http://jya.com/jg121497.htm http://jya.com/jg060898.htm (not June 10, as in the complaint; thanks to jeff-anon) http://jya.com/jg072598.htm http://jya.com/jg072798.htm
It was a pleasure to reread Toto(s)'s stuff while searching the cpunk amazing archives -- what a waterfall from everyone of free association, tants, jibes, potshots and richochets and self-mockery. I now believe the report from TX that Carl's got an IQ off the charts like all cpunks off the wall.
It's worth keeping in mind that multiple users of pseudonyms is not unusual, at least among artists long before the Internet, and not only performance group e-mailers like the Totos, CJ Parkers, XxxMongers, Gus-Peters and endless Anonymees jostling for unrecognition.
Two venerable and heavily-used nyms in Europe are Luther Bissett and Monty Cantsin. A dazzling Monty Cantsin posted here for a while. A Luther Bissett message ridiculing the recent kiddie porn sweep was posted to Cyberia a few days ago. But these pseudonyms and others are frequently used to taunt uptight authoritarians by substantial numbers of people, sometimes acting in concert but most often acting alone.
An exemplary case of acting up like the Totos and other performance pseudo-Feynmann's here, is that of Dario Fo, the Italian artist who recently won the Nobel Prize. His off the chart genius, too, was in mixing the real and imaginary to challenge, and to frighten, authority into revealing their treacherous deception of the real and imaginary to maintain state and religious control century after century, culture after culture. He, too, was regularly condemned by those obsesses with holding onto power, and sometimes arrested, for his imitations of them at their most buffoonish and serious.
Fo is from an earlier generation, though, and what more agressively offensive form is suitable for those younger we may be witnessing in the Jim Bells, Unknown Arrestees, and those here not yet projected onto the world stage but working the crowd most effectively.
Black Unicorn, step up to the mike. Show magic.
In any, case, I'm delighted to see Cypherpunks get credit in the Johnson pseudo-complaint for hosting transgressive art appropriate for the age of widespreading disinformation. A tumultous trial to amplify this forum's mayhemic virtues and vices would be magnificently chaotic and hopefully anarchic to the max.
Pray for CJ to get an equally mad attorney to demand his day, and our day, in court. This under-recognized witness is eager for a highly offensive part to play, a gibbering idiot like Toto(s), you bet, I admire their style of spleen and threat to the fools of seriousness.
Graham-John Bullers real@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca | ab756@freenet.toronto.on.ca http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~real/index.html I dream of things that never were and say,why not?