On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, dmolnar wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Trei, Peter wrote:
Entrance to the hallowed membership would, of course, require a four year electrical engineering degree followed by a post graduate degree from an accredited computer school.
I'll leave it to others to imagine the world with an APA. I think it would be a much poorer place.
Dude, do you read _Communications of the ACM_ ? Professional licensing of "software engineers" is a fact in Texas.
No, it isn't. I have lived in Texas for 34 of my 40 years and written software for income the last 23 years. My current job title is 'Senior Software Engineer' and I don't even have a degree. While it is true I can't use any term with 'Engineer' in it for personal business without a degree (you used to not need this), 5 years of apprenticeship to a current PE, and pass a test (though my employer can call me an 'engineer' or whatever with no regulation), there are no legal requirements for same either. You can get a 'Professional Engineer' certification but it is not specificaly in programming. It includes a bunch of crap out of EE & ME as well. There IS a lot of talk about it but there is NO requirement for licensing as a 'Professional Engineer' in Tx. It probably won't pass since the vast majority of programmers I work with are dead against it. I'm afraid that if this is what the ACM is passing around, they got it wrong. ____________________________________________________________________ He is able who thinks he is able. Buddha The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------