On encrypting the list, mostly I vote NO. The idea of "known non-spies" is, to say the least, a shakey one. Not the kind of concept you base security on. Also not the kind of psychological attitude and atmosphere that I want to be part of. "Are you one of US?" Stewart Brand says in the latest Whole Earth Review, that as soon as you become one of the people who knows the kinds of things that THEY want to know, then how do other people know that YOU aren't one of THEM? We're all prime suspects for being spies. I'd feel the most secure if everybody kept the content (not necessarily their true names) out in the open. Of course there's the fact that we want to be as inviting and easy-to-connect-to as possible to serious newcomers and potential friends. I count true spies and near-spies among the potential friends. I just don't want this to be, or seem like, a clique. It would be nice, however, to set up crypto I/O connection OPTIONS to the list, as an incentive for lazy people like me to figure out how to get PGP and mail filters set up. -fnerd quote me