I don't know why you guys rank on Tim May so much. Sure, he goes off topic sometimes. Hell, THIS MESSAGE IS OFF TOPIC AS IS THE MESSAGE I'M REPLYING TO! Get the point? Today, I had to delete more than 15 messages related to telling everyone how much of an asshole Tim is because he speaks off topic. Hello? Aren't these blatent (and I feel totally unwarranted) flames off topic? I think everyone should take a step back and look what's happening here. Everyone is so eager to point fingers, and they don't look at the fact that when you first get to your mail in the morning, there are over 100, even over 150 messages waiting for you! Of course, after deleting all of the noise (Thank God that damned TWA thread finally died!), you have maybe 50 messages you have to skim through, of which maybe 10 or 20 survive and go to the archive list of useful information. Maybe I should just stay out of it, but I feel these constant flamings of Tim are horribly wrong, and I've been ignoring the fact that I have to delete 20 messages about him every day for the past week. I actually find a lot of his postings interesting. Yes, half of his postings get the insta-delete-never-even-considered-for-reading treatment, but I just read an insightful message about "provably hard cryptosystems." Cryptosystems- Hm. Imagine that. Cryptosystems mentioned on a list call "Cypherpunks." ... And I thought it was the "Fuck the CIA, let's spread rumors about the US military shooting down commercial airliners out of New York, spam the spammers, kiddie-porn-on-the-net" discussion group... And now the disclaimer... Even with all of the noise, there is a lot of good information on this list, but my delete key is wearing out! :-) And please, if you don't have anything important to say, don't say anything. Posting noise does nothing but generate more noise (Hm... I wonder how much I've just generated! :-) Patrick _______________________________________________________________________________ From: Eric Hughes on Tue, Sep 24, 1996 6:38 Subject: List participation To: cypherpunks@TOAD.COM I have been informed that Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM <dlv@bwalk.dm.com> wrote:
[...] Tim's off-topic spews have driven Eric Hughes, John Gilmore, Rich Salz, and many other former valuable contributors off the mailing list [...]
As for me, I stopped having time to read cypherpunks a year and a half ago. Tim had nothing to do with it. The cypherpunks list has changed and I have changed; so be it. Eric ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by mail.ndhm.gtegsc.com with SMTP;24 Sep 1996 06:38:22 -0400 Received: from toad.com by delphi.ndhm.gtegsc.com with SMTP; Tue, 24 Sep 1996 10:35:50 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA22337 for cypherpunks-outgoing; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flamingo.sac.net (flamingo.sac.net [207.33.88.33]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22323 for <cypherpunks@toad.com>; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mango.sac.net (mango.sac.net [207.33.88.36]) by flamingo.sac.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA10771 for <cypherpunks@toad.com>; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:21:54 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960923172509.00d6e4e4@flamingo.remailer.net> X-Sender: eric@flamingo.remailer.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:25:09 -0700 To: cypherpunks@TOAD.COM From: Eric Hughes <eric@sac.net> Subject: List participation Sender: owner-cypherpunks@TOAD.COM Precedence: bulk