Oh, god, that goes waaay back. That's right, the HK G3 is a clone of the CETME. Although I think, IIRC, that the CETME used the bolt from the German (WWII era) MG-38/42 series of light machine guns, so it's not that the Spanish really invented it. And, as a matter of fact, most of the CETME people were postwar Deutsch refugees protected by Franco anyway. Nice weapons, all of them. Did you ever see the CETME light-weight version of the MG-3 in .223? What a sweetie! Dual drums. Gotta' hand it to the krauts -- best damn weapons in the world. I could care less what Smith & Colt do, as long as HK, SIG, and Walther keep on doin' what they do! Jim Choate wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote:
Jim Choate wrote:
But it isn't an example of my mistake. A HK G3 (and the non HK G3 is also .308) IS a .308 and not .223.
I'm not attacking, just interested. I'm extremely familiar with the HK G3. What is the "non-HK G3"? I've seen a clone produced here in de mudderland (mutter?? Tom?), but didn't really consider that "non-HK". Want to clarify, Jim?
Up until then I thought I did too...I"m not so sure any more.
It's not a clone of the HK G3 as it was explained to me, it was apparently used as an interim weapon when the German Army dropped the HK G3 as a standard issue weapon a few years ago (ala G11). Maybe FAL, they're selling a 'G1' rifle that uses caseless ammo? Though I can't find a reference to any such rifle. Maybe it was CETME you do see their gun pushed as the 'G3' (the HK is a 'clone' or derived weapon from the Spanish gun).
Honestly, I never could figure out exactly what was going on there. That's why I finally dropped it. I just did some searches on google and didn't find anything helpful.
Hope that helps.
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