On Sunday, August 5, 2001, at 03:01 PM, Aimee Farr wrote:
Yes. Unless it is of special relevance. For example:
Dear company:
I just wanted to write you and tell you that the microwave that I bought from you exploded. Thought you should know. Nobody was hurt, thank goodness! Maybe something is wrong with it?
Thanks,
Mrs. Smith
The above wouldn't just be any old email now would it?
Which is why important letters and notifications which may be relevant in some future case are almost always sent via registered mail, served in person, and so on. \ There is a big difference between a legal notice like "You are hereby notified of a possible defect in your Whackomatic product and copies of this letter have been sent to your legal offices and with the Better Business Bureau." and "Hey, I hope you kept that e-mail I sent you last year." LIkewise, communications are frequently channeled to specific addresses ("Send product warranty queries to ....") and are even discarded ("Unsolicited manuscripts and letters sent to Big Studio, Inc. are destroyed"). Now, is there some _specific_ legislation requiring either these kinds of "records retention" or "manuscript submission" policies? Maybe in some cases, by direct legislation. Certainly not for remailer logs, which is the point James and others of us have been making. Is there a _custom_ for some of these policies? Sure. Lawyers probably keep most letters which come to them...but probably don't worry about e-mail too much. (I used to correspond with several lawyers. Should I expect that they kept my e-mails? Of course not.) What about the role of _technology_? With the technology of formal letters, printed on formal legal department letterheads, and with filing cabinets in offices across the land, the _technology_ fits with the _custom_ of filing every letter received. With e-mail, which is ephemeral, subject to inadvertent erasure (hit the wrong key and it's gone), subject to erasure or misfiling during housecleaning, hard disk crashes, reformattings, or just plain switching mailers, there is much less expectation of permanence. (By the way, I am using the "three legs" of LAW, CUSTOM, and TECHNOLOGY, as outlined by Larry Lessig several years ago (and presumably recapped in his recent book, "Code," which I haven't yet picked up except in bookstores. I don't agree with Lessig's conclusions, but I felt his analysis was a useful one. I wrote a couple of articles on how his model fits with my own models (very similar, though I don't claim Lessig was influenced by me, even though we overlapped for a while on Cyberia).) Getting back to remailer logs for a moment, why is a remailer any more responsible for keeping detailed logs than a person like me is for keeping logs of what mail I received, whom I bounced it over to, and so on? The fact that Robb London might be "very interested" in where I bounced Jim Bell's mail to does NOT mean I had any obligation to keep detailed records, presumably in a form not subject to erasure or loss through routine misadventures of the computer kind. And as James keeps ragging about, if they haven't gone after Microsoft for "spoliating" as MS got rid of old e-mail and limited employee planners and notes, they surely can't go after the operator of the noisebox remailer, for example, for failing to keep logs of all traffic from May 19, 1999 to May 24, 1999. (And, by the way, conventional remailer logs, it would seem, would be of incoming traffic and outgoing traffic. The guts of the "request-remailing-to" operation, in either Cypherpunks Type I or 1 or Mixmaster remailers happens inside another program. It would take extra twiddling of the logging software to actually add a report saying "Incoming message #71734 was pooled and was sent out 23 minutes and 18 seconds later as outgoing message #70219." Standard Unix or Linux logs should not be very helpful, and keeping them is not required by any current statute. (CALEA may have stuff in it about logs, but the LEAs have yet to push in this direction. Certainly an ex post facto laws penalizing someone for violating CALEA when no CALEA standards/precedents are established would be a reach.) --Tim May