I agree that there were one too many "tortured genius staring in the mirror while flooded by angst" scenes. Okay, perhaps two or three too many. That having been said, I found the themes interesting. Maybe I am sophomoric, but I will always find the fibonacci constant facsinating. I was impressed that the director did not overstep the bounds of his understanding of it and Kabbalah. Many directors who broach either topic have a tendency to take what little they know and extrapolate off into meaninglessness. Also, I liked the soundtrack, and the scene where the protaganist is "saved" by the group of Hasids. (Were they in an Aries K car? I found that scene hilarious.) Yes, it was pretentious in parts; but given the topics this film concerned itself with, that was inevitable. And I would watch the film 3.1416...times a day for a week before I would watch any of the current slew of politcally correct propaganda pretending to be art that gets pumped out by Hollywood. I venture to guess that there was more to think about in Pi then there was in "One True Thing" or will be in "Beloved." 42,396. Er...no. 42,489. Um, wait. 23,777. yeah that's it.Xenophon P.S. Has anyone seen the 2nd edition of "Maximum Security" yet? Any reviews?