so what? fv has a keyboard sniffer...
if you're going to d/l programs from the net and not pay attention to what's going on you'll always be at risk and a fool as well.
for what it's worth, this sort of program could easily be used to get info more important than credit card numbers. passphrases and passwords of all kinds could be obtained leading to broken accts or worthless cryptography.
I'm quite amazed at the level of ... well ... how can I characterize it without insulting too many people? ... arrogance? ... Many of you would be amazed at what motivates the average person to buy or to use a computer. Most people, when asked about security, do not even have a concept, let alone how it applies in a computer environment. There is far more misinformation and miseducation among the average user than you might think. Not everyone understands why they need a modem in order to get onto the Internet. Not everyone understands why you need to sign up for an account with an ISV in order to get onto the Internet. (You would be amazed at how many people think that just buying a modem is good enough to get onto the Internet.) The response is typically, "I don't understand all that technobabble!" "Just give me something that works!" "This is too complicated!" If you think that the dumb user should be left to fight for his/her own survival on the information highway, you are easily condemning 75% to 90% of the current users. I am not entirely convinced that Borenstein is totally selfless in his (or FV's) announcement. However, the basis of his argument, while it may not apply to the cypherpunk community, has much merit in the real world. Try helping 100 random people with computers. Bet you 90 of them have trouble getting onto the Internet, period, let alone figuring how to run Netscape. There is a reason why AOL/CompuServe do very well caterring to those who are technically-challenged. Ern