Re: UBL is George Washington

6 Jul 2004


      "And this was a prime target.  Financial disruption from *just* the tower
collapses was significant across the economy as a whole: lost records,
insurance claims, lawsuits, etc., exacted a very substantial loss against
their enemy."

That was nothing compared to the real damage, which I've heard few people 
point out. There was a telecom CO in (I think) #4 World Trade Center, and 
falling debris took the giant Verizon CO across the street on West Street 
offline for almost a week. The result was that Wall Street was basically cut 
off for several days...the effect of that dwarfs all the other stuff. 
(Although I wonder...Pipar Jaffrey was pretty much wiped out. Even if the 
records survived, they lost so much manpower that might have actually had a 
small but worldwide impact.) Of course, I truly doubt OBL & his posse 
realized this when they targeted the WTC (and the fact that they continue to 
pretty much ignore relatively ungarded COs shows they still don't realize 
this). If they took out a few key COs downtown one morning the effect on the 
economy would be significant.
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From: "J.A. Terranson" 
To: Justin 
CC: cypherpunks@minder.net
Subject: Re: UBL is George Washington
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 18:59:22 -0500 (CDT)
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Justin wrote:
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On 2004-07-06T11:28:41-0700, Eric Cordian wrote:
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Sunder wrote:
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Right, WTC as a target doesn't make any strategic sense.
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Doesn't hitting a world financial center impede the funding of 
imperialism?
Empirically, I don't think so.  Since September 11th, funding to the
military and security industries have increased substantially through
DHS and military contracts.  It may be that the only way out is through,
and that the only way to be free from Western Imperialism is to cause it
to strangle itself.
Precisely.  They are doing to us what we did to the soviets: they making
us spend ourselves right out of existence.
...
In the short term, however, terrorists have not
succeeded in getting our imperialist policies changed.
9/11 with Dubya at the helm can have only one result.
Dubya at the helm can have only 1 result.  9/11 was just his cover.
...
...
If you apply the same standards the US uses to classify dual use
infrastructure, and organizations "linked to" the enemy, I think the
WTC is pretty high on the target list.
Yep.  Even ignoring specific entities that officed in the WTC, it was an
effective target.  When a government is in debt 70%+ of the GDP (2002 -
$10.4T), there's little distinction between private financial targets
and government targets.
And this was a prime target.  Financial disruption from *just* the tower
collapses was significant across the economy as a whole: lost records,
insurance claims, lawsuits, etc., exacted a very substantial loss against
their enemy.
...
...
The US bombed water treatment plants, electrical facilities, and
bridges in Iraq.  Certainly not military targets either.
Each democratic government likes to flood the logos with the notion that
it only attacks military targets; it convinces citizens that their
government is humane, and helps to pacify the non-interventionists.
In practice, intelligence is never accurate.  Hitting only military
targets, even if that were the goal which is clearly not the case -- is
not possible.
Nonetheless, the military *does* consider places like WTC to be legitimate
*military* targets.
--
Yours,
J.A. Terranson
sysadmin@mfn.org
"...justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do
  not.  And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out
  about them."
Osama Bin Laden
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Re: UBL is George Washington

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