OK, that's an interesting, but not that isolated an incident.... in the early 60s, I was stopped in Providence late at night by an officer (driving a red '57 bird which says 'give me a ticket') . no big real other than the 4+ hours of hassle since the officer did not like my license and wanted "proof" --at 4am. finally, they let me call ALA (auto. legal assoc.) and an attorney managed to spring me. at that time, the bill was about $150. ALA paid the bill. but, at renewal, the ALA would not renew as a I had "multiple" arrests. seems like the ALA's local contract attorney had "represented" me two more times in his area --he was paid, I had the violations on record --I just wasn't there for any of it! Not bad for a little extra paperwork --for three phone calls he made almost $700! not bad for 60-62. I guess the phantom struck again! OK, Jim, tell us WHY you don't respect unicorn for his story? At that time Patriarcha was the NE don --judging from the news reports during the years I was at Harvard, AP must have been a common practice --except it was probably a closed betting pool. time for the three little monkeys on that one.... -attila -- Cyberspace and Information are Freedom! FUCK your WIPO, too. -attila