"Declan B. McCullagh" <declan+@CMU.EDU> said: DBM> ObCrypto: Yes, Know Your Enemies and work with the natural DBM> enemies of the religious right, such as groups like the ACLU and DBM> the FEN. The theocratic push to outlaw nonescrowed crypto is DBM> next. As someone who would prolly be considered part of the 'religious right' (why don't we ever hear of the 'religious left', who are prolly just as much in support of banning porn?), I have to take exception to this. I'm appalled by the CDA, and, if you start pointing out to religious supporters of the CDA that it has already resulted in the King James version of the Bible being removed from (at least) one web site, I'm sure that some of them will be as well, especially the fundamentalists for whom the spread of the Gospel is, well, gospel. Be sure to point out that the same courts who the blame for 'removing prayer from our schools' would be ruling on the indency of the Bible. As for supporting GAK/banning non-GAK, I don't think that you would dispute that the 700 Club is strongly dominated by the religious right, and it came out firmly AGAINST the entire notion of GAK during the Clipper debate. -- #include <disclaimer.h> /* Sten Drescher */ Unsolicited email advertisements will be proofread for a US$100/page fee.