-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 5:39 PM -0700 4/21/03, Tim May accused me of pissing in his personal catbox:
First, Bob should cut back on his massive cross-posting to his several self-centered groups (including new ones to me: "Philodex Clips" and "dgcchat").
Ah. Theoretically, that's a claim made in the absence of data, at least as far as Mr. May is concerned, because, last time looked, I was in his killfile. Which might still be the case, because, inevitably, when someone replies to something I send to cypherpunks, Tim flames away. :-). Oddly enough, Patrick's libertarian/anarchocapitalist ideological purity flame was actually an original message, which probably proves the point. So, I plead guilty of creating new mailing list, m'lord, though the idea for the new list not exactly new. Philodox Clips is an attempt to put all the forwarded stuff into one list, like I used to do with the now 5-year-defunct e$pam list, only with, heh, more scope. :-). As a firehose of firehoses, it's probably not useful in its present form, but copyright law prevents turning it into a web-archive or an RSS feed. Besides, I'm going to do it anyway, and, apparently, *some* people want to look at it, including Patrick, :-), so I might as well put it in, heh, one place. However, dgcchat@lists.goldmoney.com isn't mine. It's an unmoderated discussion list ostensibly about digital gold currencies hosted, but not controlled by, GoldMoney.com. It's where lots of the original libertarian/anarchocapitalist (hence Patrick's "purity" flame) e-gold types went after several interesting, not to mention litigious, events occurred on and around the original e-gold discussion list, resulting in an unfortunate over-moderation of same. [Think what precipitated the demise of the old cypherpunks list at toad.com, and you'll get something of an idea.]
Second, those from other lists who give their hero his
Well, somebody *did* call me a "hyperactive genius saint from the future" once, but I attribute that to, um, misplaced enthusiasm. Certainly the only genius saint from the future *I* know is Tim May, who, by all accounts, is not hyperactive, per se...
"props" (a negro term now being used by many negro wannabees) should do so on lists other than Cypherpunks.
...though certainly racist, if not in fact, then in deliberate affect.
Third, I wonder when Bob will stop proliferating "digibucks" and "bearer settlement" and "e$" and "Philodex Clips" and all of his other lists and instead actually _work on_ his "fractally geodesic multi-centered emergent global clearing"
That's "functionally anonymous instantaneous internet bearer transactions executing, clearing, and settling on ubiquitous geodesic internetworks", to you, Tim. :-). Besides, none of the above is mine, after all. "Anonymous" is David Chaum. "Geodesic Networks" is Peter Huber. Digital bearer transactions is Nick Szabo. "Immediate and final clearing" is Eric Hughes. "Functionally", and "ubiquitous" I leave as an exercise for the reader. I just stuck it all together in the right order. Nonetheless, I do agree that Making Shit Happen is Hard, even in the best of times. Guilty as charged 'mlord. But Tim knew that, like everything else he currently knows, in 1992. :-). Officially, IBUC is a going concern, but only just. Last revenue was a year ago, and last real revenue was in July 2001. We've got more unpaid bills than Carter's has pills, and we haven't made an interest payment on our outstanding bonds in a year either. I'm living proof that bootstrapping in the absence of revenue is not nearly as easy as it looks. :-). I am looking at ways to generate revenue other ways (which is why the Philodox site is probably going to be retooled, if we can figure out what for or how to do it) to pay both IBUC's bills, and to pay for new stuff to do. Not much luck there, yet, either. Making Shit Happen is Hard, these days, in particular. I'm too stubborn, if not stupid, :-), to quit, though. Of course, it's hard to tell whether I've quit or not given the present pace of things. One of the more humorous definitions of insanity is persistent behavior in the absence of evidence to the contrary, and it's starting to feel like it applies, but that can be said of several people we all know. :-).
b.s. Unless his real career is, as many suspect, just endless self-promotion using the latest snake oil buzzwords.
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