[Noise] Re: Java

s1113645@tesla.cc.uottawa.ca writes:

[...](One thing that detractors of Smalltalk claim is that it is slow--slower than Java. However there is a research dialect from Sun called Self which is supposed to be 50% as fast as C.)

Self also give a new meaning to phrase "code bloat." A 'Hello, world!' that requires more than a megabyte kind of kills any enthusiasm one might or a language which otherwise takes a neat slant message passing... [Although I gave up before version 4.0 so maybe things have gotten better] jim