Mark Allyn wrote: | I would like to make a suggestion that D. Denning; others | who are pro-escrow/clipper; and some of you folks here on | this forum get together for a debate. Why bother? Denning's position is that we'll go away. By deploying remailers, PGP, and other pro-privacy technologies, we change the terms of the debate, and we change the facts that they must deal with. Write code, not rants. I wrote a mixmaster installer script recently to make installing a Mixmaster easy. (You can get it by sending me a message with a "Subject: get mixmaster".) I'm working on code to allow a Mixmaster to only send to other mixmasters, and local users. This would allow people to covertly run a Mixmaster, avoiding the headache of having anonymized messages come from your site. Now and then, debating with Denning and the like is fun. But she's a statist, and I'm not. We aren't going to see eye to eye on this stuff, so rather than responding, with detailed arguments, respond with code that does new & nifty stuff. A GUI version of premail would be cool, as would a key management utility for handing PGP keyrings and webs of trust. Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume