Of course one point that most people seem to overlook (conveniently for their arguments perhaps) is that when comparisons are being drawn between Microsoft and prior trust busting such as IBM, Standard Oil etc, is that in the case of Microsoft, the consumer is getting more for less money. Not so with IBM or Standard Oil or the ridiculous comparison I read in today's Mercury News about the village peddler that says "if you want to buy my butter you have to buy my eggs". A more accurate comparison would be "free eggs if you buy butter". Last time I checked, IE is free. You pay for Win9x but get the IE without paying a penny more. In my case, I just ignore IE and install Netscape which I prefer. I guess the IE takes up some disk space, but since disks are so cheap now, I simply don't worry about any of that. In the meantime all I hear is a lot of belly aching by Microsoft wannabes. The Microsoft wannabes remind me a lot of Micron Technology. Micron complains about the Taiwanese and Koreans selling DRAMs and SRAMs in the us below their manufacturing cost. But when I go to Taiwan (monthly) I hear that the guys bombing the price of DRAM are none other than Micron. Appleton (Micron's CEO) raised holy hell about the Korean bailout, citing the issue that our tax dollars are used to prop up his competitors. Well I have news for Appleton: the fact is that the low price of DRAM and SRAM is good for American industry as a whole, and who the hell cares if Micron is suffering, if Compaq, Dell, Gateway, Sun, IBM, HP, SGI, etc all can sell a better box for less money using cheap DRAM? Like Micron, the Netscapes, Suns, Oracles etc of the world want to use the courts to solve a problem that stems from the fundamental fact that they simply cannot get their act together enough to be competitive in the market. rdc