Re: Money-making ideas for Igor Chudov

17 Dec 2003

      aga <aga@dhp.com> writes:
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"Igor 'FUCK MNE HARDER' Chudov @ home" <ichudov@algebra.com> writes:
algebra.com is a suspect domain.
Yes, Dr. Grubor - it's been implicated in Jan Isley's (spit) Usenet vote fraud:

]From: Jan Isley <jan@bagend.atl.ga.us>
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]Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.invest,sci.econ,sci.econ.research,sci.stat.math
]Subject: RESULT: sci.finance.abstracts moderated passes 299:22
]Supersedes: <833766203.25886@uunet.uu.net>
]Followup-To: news.groups
]Date: 16 Jun 1996 20:53:15 -0400
]Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
]Lines: 475
]Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
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]Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net
]Message-ID: <834972791.18156@uunet.uu.net>
]References: <832958763.9345@uunet.uu.net> <833766203.25886@uunet.uu.net>
]NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
]Archive-Name: sci.finance.abstracts
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]                                RESULT
]         moderated group sci.finance.abstracts passes 299:22
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]sci.finance.abstracts results - 321 valid votes
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] Yes  No  | 2/3 >100 | Pass | Group
]---- ---- | --- ---- | ---- | -------------------------------------------
] 299   22 | Yes  Yes |  Yes | sci.finance.abstracts
]   32 invalid votes
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][ notes on the voter list:
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]  31 "suspicious" votes from manifold.algebra.com were invalidated.
]  Most of the acks bounced and no response was recieved after multiple
]  attempts to verify the voters.
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]Invalid ballots
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]antosha@manifold.algebra.com                                    Anton Prokofiev
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]blin@manifold.algebra.com                                             Bobby Lin
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]brown@manifold.algebra.com                                           Brad Brown
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]doug@manifold.algebra.com                                         Doug Hamilton
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]dyer@manifold.algebra.com                                             Rock Dyer
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]gcooper@manifold.algebra.com                                        Greg Cooper
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]gunboy@manifold.algebra.com                                      Ronald Trecker
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]kjh@manifold.algebra.com                                          Ken J. Hunter
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]lenka@manifold.algebra.com                                        Elena Zaiceva
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]mccaig@manifold.algebra.com                                       Andrew McCaig
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]mel.lunch@manifold.algebra.com                                        Mel Lynch
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]mikeb@manifold.algebra.com                                           Mike Burke
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]mil@manifold.algebra.com                                         Milton Parrott
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]milman@manifold.algebra.com                                        Jerry Milman
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]mjohnson@manifold.algebra.com                                      Mark Johnson
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]mklein@manifold.algebra.com                                        Martin Klein
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]msidorova@manifold.algebra.com                                  Marina Sidorova
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]munze@manifold.algebra.com                                          Martin Unze
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]nastya@manifold.algebra.com                                              Nastya
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]natasha@manifold.algebra.com                                         Natasha K.
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]owen@manifold.algebra.com                                            Larry Owen
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]pizza@manifold.algebra.com                                      Sergey Filippov
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]rcross@manifold.algebra.com                                       Russell Cross
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]rhenderson@manifold.algebra.com                                   Ron Henderson
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]sexguru@manifold.algebra.com                                Anthony Del Vecchio
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]smk@manifold.algebra.com                                        David Shoemaker
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]tar@manifold.algebra.com                                        Mikhail Tarutin
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]tarasik@manifold.algebra.com                                      Taras Leonoff
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]volk@manifold.algebra.com                                        Mikhail Volkov
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]whale@manifold.algebra.com                                      James S. Whaley
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]willis@manifold.algebra.com                                          Tim Willis
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Please consider declaring algebra.com and video-collage.com rogue sites.
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manifold::~==>premail -t cypherpunks@toad.com
Chain: haystack;jam
Subject: I urgently need a lot of money.
Please share your money-making secrets, I am in a desperate need
for cash.
For shame! Igor Chewed-off disgraces his Chewish Mommy by even asking. Isn'
propensity for "gesheft" genetic? Here's another money-making idea for Igor
Igor obtains a list of e-mail addresses of people interested in equity-rela
investments (e.g. by watching misc.invest.* and sending the posters / those
voted for their creation unsolicited e-mail; or by posting anonymous ads,
inviting the readers to reply to a reply block in order to receive 3 free
promotional issues of an investment advice newsletter; or even by starting
his own private financial derivatives mailing list). Igor divides the maili
list into 2^3=8 parts, and gives them exotic Russian-sounding names: Alekse
Boris, Vasilij, Grigorij, Dmitrij, Elena, Zhenja, Zoya.
Igor then uses an anonymous remailer to spam everyone on his mailing list w
the 8 variants of the following message: "Congratulations! You have won 3 f
issued of the _Boris Investment Newsletter, published in Tulsa, Oklahoma, b
proud holder of a Master's Degree in Financial Engineering from the Moscow
State University. I predict that within the next month Adobe stock will go
Instead of "Boris", Igor will substitute one of the 8 newsletter names; ins
of Adobe, he can use any volatile stock that's as likely to go up as down;
the predicted stock price movement will be "up" in the first four newslette
and "down" in the other four.
One month later the stock in question is either up or down. Without loss of
generality, suppose that it's gone down. Aleksej, Boris, Vasilij, and
Grigorij's investment advice was wrong, they disappear from the face of the
earth, and the former recipients of their newsletters don't get bothered an
more. (Or they could be recycled for future scams; or they could be send th
remaining 2 issues of worthless advice, as promised.) On the other hand
Dmitrij, Elena, Zhenja, and Zoya guessed right, so this time they send out
new investment newsletter via the anonymous remailers:
"Congratulations! You continue to receive the free investment advice newsle
from Zoya in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Last month I correctly predicted that Adobe w
have gone down. If you're smart, you've shorted Adobe's stock and made lots
money by now. This month I predict that Cisco will go _down as well."
Again, Dmitrij and Elena predict that some other volatile stock goes up, wh
Zhenja and Zoya predict that it goes down. Suppose D&E are right. Igor leav
the Zh.&Z. partitions alone. One month later D&E's subscribers get letter #
"Congratulations! You continue to receive the free investment advice newsle
from Elena in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Two months ago I predicted that Adobe would
down. I hope you sold it short. Last month I predicted that Cisco would go
I hope you bought it. This month I predict that Lucent will go _up."
One month later one of the two is right, so its recipients get the fourth a
final e-mail from an anonymous remailer, this time using a reply block:
"I've given you three free stock tips over the last 3 months which probably
made you a lot of money. Now that you've seen my track record, you'll want
continue receiving my free advice, but the free promotion is over. Please s
$20 in untraceable digital cash to this reply block to receive 6 future
issues."
Quite a few people would risk the $20, but that would be the last they hear
from Igor. :-)
(Alternatively, he can even e-mail 6 more issues of worthless advice to tho
who caughed up the $20, so they can't complain. It would be hard to prosecu
Igor without proving that all 8 newsletters were published by the same pers
who's been giving contradictory advice to different people.)
But what Law would you charge him with?
Unless you could prove his "intent" I see no way that you
could ever prove any case against him.
The intent is to defraud, but shouldn't absolute free speech protect fraud
and libel?
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"Credibility is expendable." - John Gilmore
He just says that because he spent his.
That's very true - he has none left whatsoever. What a sorry piece of work.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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