On Sunday, January 6, 2002, at 01:41 PM, John Young wrote:
There are many voices and styles of discourse, and to be sure a variety of ways to moderate by intimidation and ridicule and proclaiming the one true way to do it without seeming to.
Different strokes, differing anarchies, and archies pretending otherwise. That is what makes this commons more interesting than the closed salons. Which by no means precluded all the vile behavior each of us foams about as if not a practitioner.
I miss the variety of serious and humorous discourse of Detweiler, Vulis, Toto, Perry, Gilmore, Sandy, Harry Hawk, Eric Hughes, come to think of it, a whole collection of accused misfits here,
Perry left because we were not staid enough. He formed his own moderated group. Sandy posts in bursts, vanishing for several months, then returning. Harry Shapiro/Hawk I have never seen on this list. Maybe a couple of posts in the early days, but I doubt it. I think you are confusing this list with Extropians, where he was once a frequent poster. John Gilmore was also never a frequent poster, as any check of the archives will show. He posted infrequently in 1992-4, and almost not at all since then. Occasionally he forwards articles he's published elsewhere. Longing for the good ole days is one thing, but longing for a past that was never there is just silly. As for Detweiler and Vulis, they contributed little of use, and reams of noise. Someone told me recently that Detweiler has surfaced in another forum, ranting about something weird. Vulis seems to have vanished from the face of the earth.
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