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Human Rights Watch, Amnesty, and countless Iraqi refugees all report similar stories of widespread torture and murder. Is it your position that these are all propagandists?
Dismissing as "propaganda" any reports that oppose your argument, while accepting as truth any claim that supports it, is simple intellectual dishonesty.
No, but it is very interresting that all of this didn't matter while Saddam was the "good guy" for our causes (and by that I mean the Western world general). To use those people as a reason to wage war (even if the outcome would better their lives and the votes on this is still out) still has moral implications, and if it is only by the sanctions that did nothing to prevent those cruelties from happening but actually adding more to their daily lives. I don't know about you. But I know that if I would have lost family members in the past 12 years because of Sanctions and Saddam I would (at best) find the current arguments FOR the war (if I would know about them) more than cynical. M. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBP+Ek5GlCnxcrW2uuEQL2mgCgu51ILwv30Oa8V8te8IRfSMnCySkAn08A DF9dO7ROZY/QsT33q7Qp2r7E =TqNF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----