While Mike may indeed be correct about the incremental effectiveness of using PGP *at this time*, I think Eric's point is the more important -- that as a leading organization promoting electronic privacy and access, EFF ought to set an example, one positive offshoot of which might be an *improvement* in EFF's communication effectiveness since the spoofing issue can be dealt with so much more easily. This is really a wake-up call to all of us, I think. I've had PGP sitting around on the shelf for a while now, and I'm not using it . . . yet. But that's going to change. If *we* don't take advantage of these tools now, in effect defining their use and showing their benefits, then who will? Those who lobby and advocate on behalf of these tools and approaches ought to have direct experience with them. It will make our efforts more authentically based on experience and thus more effective. Fred Heutte Sunlight Data Systems phred@well.sf.ca.us phred@teleport.com "Why make it simple & easy When you can make it complex & wonderful!"