First and foremost I would like to publicly apologize to Mr. James A. Donald... re-reading my intial post to this thread, I feel that I was out of line in some places. As is the current topic of the MEME thread, I would like to stress that one should attack the message and *not* the messenger. Mr. Donald (*not* McDonald) is neither a fascist, nor Hitler, nor anything else than however he chooses to define himself. His views, however, *are* open to interpretation. As it stands, I respect Mr. Donald's views (and for the most part, I agree with him...on other things ;) ). The second and last point I would like to make is that quotes to *back up* an argument are more than helpful, and would save much bandwidth. If Mr. Donald would like to continue his part in this thread, either publicly or privately, I am more than willing to discuss Chomsky (or anything for that matter), as long as I have something tangible to discuss. The same applies to anyone else who wishes to discuss Chomsky.... Like many of us, I get over 500 pieces of email a day--and I try to read every bit of it; I think one piece of footnoted or otherwise appended email is worth 20 pieces of the Hitler-calling type. Mi taku oyasin... _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ It's dangerous to be right _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ when the government is _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ wrong. _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ --Voltaire _/