Amidst all the flames about impure Cypherpunks on the list, about evil capitalist corporations, about conspiracies involving the underground Grey Alien bases in Nevada, and amidst the flames about posts not dealing solely with number theory or ciphers, it's nice to read a post like this one from David Murray. The tension between "private transactions" and "traceable transactions" is indeed at the core of the debate. Kudos to David on this. I just want to end on a positive note before leaving for the holidays (the birthday of my savior, F. Hayek, of course). --Tim May Views here are not the views of my Internet Service Provider or Government. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."