on 03 Oct 1995, Dr. Dimitri Vulis KOTM <dlv@bwalk.dm.com> defecated: .(We have at least one mormon asshole here, attilla, who's obviously pro-GAK) . ------ pro-GAK? either me or the average Utahn? really? no way. other than Salt Lake City area which might be more pro-GAK, which were it not for Temple Square, etc. could be just any other large city with a Mormon MINORITY. the population influx asking to be able to join our safe communities and values has not only changed the balance of power in favour of outsiders, but the outsiders brought their social problems (gangs, drugs, morals, etc.) with them. and maybe willing to trade their freedoms for temporary security. surprised? ask questions before you quote me (or anyone) as to their position on constitutional matters. your innuendos and depravity is unworthy of any educated Western individual, or do you not consider yourself a Western intellectual? maybe you really are only capable of playing the Vodka sotted Russian fool? where is your dancing bear? I think I have more than a few credentials for being anti anything the Feds propose on curbing the Bill of Rights and the Constitution --including more than several visits from the boys in grey trench coats in the early morning, and being arrested and charged by the Feds with both crypto and 'trading with the enemy' --the fear of public disclosure is what stops them from going even to indictment. and, I endured one of their standard forms of pay- back, at a personal price we shall not discuss. a man is considered lucky if he has one true friend when he is down and being kicked by the Feds; I found a virtual army of good people, many outside my immediate ward, who not only did not turn their backs, but actively supported; many not even knowing what the fight was about, let alone understanding it other than not only my rights, but theirs as well, were be trampled upon by the Feds. do you have any friends like that? --to you, that is a loaded question which probably should been framed as '...do you have any friends?' but I shall give you the benefit of the doubt. dimitri (in the diminutive), go sniff a few flowers to counter your rank stench of incivility. go wander the boardwalk as an obscure soul. lighten up; the glass of water we ALL drink from is still at least half-full, not half-empty. sometimes life does give free refills. -- "The only natural criminal class in America, the U.S. Congress" --Mark Twain