I believe that the UN Universal Declaration of Human rights includes the right to emmigrate without undue hardship. I would suggest contacting Amnesty International to complain about this harrassment by the US government. Article 13, section 2, article 15, section 2. http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html On Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 10:17:12PM -0400, Vincent Cate wrote: | | My Barbados Embassy/Consulate contact Steve Steger (246) 228 4338 called | me up and told me that the state department has not approved my | renunciation - they say one of the forms the Barbados guys had me fill out | is old. | | For those just tuning in, I renounced my citizenship to be free of US laws | on cryptography. | | While I was at the Consulate they had me fill out a 1st set of forms, then | said those were obsolete (a few years back) and after waiting around for | hours they had me fill out a 2nd set of forms that they said was the | current version. I filled out and signed everything they gave me. They | then had an interview with several witnesses. They took my US passport | and gave me copies of the 2nd version of all the forms with my signatures | and theirs on them. | | Now Steve says that I am supposed to travel down to Barbados again using | up my time and my money because of their error to do a 3rd version of | their forms. Both the time and the money make this a hardship. They won't | mail me this 3rd version of the forms and they won't pay for my trip (let | alone time). | | It seems to me that since I told the New York times that I renounced my US | citizenship, and they told the world, that it should be a done deal. Also, | spending a day in the Consulate signing everything they gave me should be | enough to do it. And why is a form saying basically "I renounce my | citizenship" that worked awhile back not effective today? | | But most of all, the very idea that the US government has to give me | permission to renounce my association with it seems totally wrong. The | people in the US are supposed to be free, not slaves or subjects. Free | means free to leave. | | Any advice? | | -- Vince | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Vincent Cate Offshore Information Services | Vince@Offshore.com.ai http://www.offshore.com.ai/ | Anguilla, BWI http://www.offshore.com.ai/vince | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | You have to take life as it happens, but you should try to make it | happen the way you want to take it. - German Proverb | | -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume