This entire business may be pretty simple. If we have anonymity both ways, (where one or neither party knows the others physical location), then who cares about the content of the message? You might as well send it in plain text, Except you need RSA just for the signitures so you know you aren't being spoofed. *RSA signatures ARE money.* Unless money (accouting, proof) is needed, you don't need RSA. What you do need is anonymity. {Of course throwing RSA on top of it with RSA encoded regular keys is a nice touch (no sense in giving anything away.)} ---- Now listen up kiddies, what you are playing with is sedition, conspiricy, and the like. In other words plain old politics. Adding mumbo-jumbo (crypto) technology doesn't change a thing. If you want to do this, it is a simple matter of building a large enough cooperative group. How big? Well bigger than the Hells Angels, Maybe a thousand people. I don't know. Depends on how rough it gets. But the proceedure is just mutual backscratching. We all accept and forward anonymous mail for each other. So long as it is coded, we can deny knowledge of the contents. That can go a long way as long as the basic activity (of forwarding) itself is not proscribed. There have been several suggestions here how this would be done. You send mail to a cooperative site, who forwards it. That same site will receive replies. You collect your mail with specific commands to dump the accumulated contents to some other node. It would be moderately tough to bug one node. A quick second skip would make it almost impossible to track, 3 quick skips to eternity. But the trick is to have a large net of standardized, cooperating sites. There have been suggestions to throw cypher-money into this equation to pay for the operation of the "MIXes" or the operators of the servicing nodes. But that won't work. In a hostile environment money won't buy civil disobedience. It's like you can't pay somebody else to go to war for you. We all have to shoulder part of the risk. We should evolve some standard "remailer/replier daemon" and run them as a common service. It is just our civic duty. The list of cooperating, volunteer sites would be published in a plain text group. You are either on the list or you aren't. Just the presence of such a cypher mob should stop the forces of darkness. -Gilbert